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Curious as to what these are
The top image is of an Amaurobius species (lace weaver), there are 2 or 3 that can be commonly found in our homes, but it might not be possible to narrow the ID from that photo.
The lower image doesn't really give enough detail for an ID, any chance of an additional photo? Anything showing any markings on the abdomen would be a help?
thanks, that's what i thought the first one was.
no sorry that was the clearest picture i took, it didnt have any markings on it.