Hi everyone. I knew this spider was living between my greenhouse/workshop. Spiders do not bother me. Then the other night I rescued a rather large moth from the web, the spider fighting back but eventually giving in. Moth flew off unharmed. I decided to check up on the spider. It is shiniest black. About the size of a 5p. Has a very untidy web and seems to come out at night. Lots of debris around below the web.
Only way to catch it really was to use a toothbrush to scoop the whole nest bit out and straight into plastic container. Photos taken this morning after it has spent the night in the container.
I THOUGHT I saw red markings on it when it was up in the web, they may be on the underside as the photo is taken from the top.
Look forward to any replies
Presumably does not eat rabbit hutches or rabbits ! (sorry) Should this spider be swept away to another location if it is in an area where children play? I was once bitten by the spider that eats woodlice (very orange legs and front with grey almost silky rear - I actually sent it to the NHMuseum for identification so do have the real name noted down somewhere) and it hurt ! So I am now more wary when I say "oh its just a spider it is more frightened of you than you are of him !"
Thank you Steph
I blew the picture up as much as I could and the spider certainly looks like a Steatoda bipunctat.a to me. When we get the odd Black Widow in the UK they are almost always associated with freight that has come in from America and I'm pretty certain this is not one.
Yes, like most spiders you could probably get a bite from it, but this would be the exception rather than the rule. The False Widow with the most venomous bite is supposedly Steatoda noblis and I handle these on an almost daily basis (I call my house Steatoda Towers) as I'm removing them from the bath, sink, piano and wardrobes etc and remain unbitten I would advise just letting it go away from your house but do not be suprised to find another in it's place as they seem to have some sort of queuing system organised .
Ah, that is cool. I shall probably put it back where it was. I like having the spiders around as a rule, changing seasons bring different house guests.
Here in cornwall they do get pretty big ! The spider that bit me was behind some water pipes. I was decorating and just doing the clean down behind some pipes, thought I had pricked myself on a needle used to take out splinters ! Spider was locked on at 90o and was not going to let go ! Yelled, flicked my hand, and then realised that I had flicked spider "somewhere" in the kitchen ! Found it in the catfood tin - luckily before I had removed every single item in an effort to REfind this spider! I spent next 3 hours waiting for myself to go bright red and swell up ! LOL nothing happened other than poor spider bit the dust and got put into a kinderegg plastic toy holder and posted off to the NHMuseum. (I do get parcels and pressies from family all over the world from NZ - America - Italy and buy bananas and avocados etc., so always think its going to be me LOL)
Thank you for your time, I am forever taking photos of insects etc., in my garden and friends' gardens.
best wishes Stephanie
Just back from hols in sunny (well it was pretty wet) Dorset.
I would be 95% sure that this one is Steatoda nobilis , which I have to report is now all over my home in Berkshire. First found one two years ago but since we have moved into the loft space (newly converted) I now find them preferring this altitude and the blighters keep falling through the velux windows when we open them. Must admit any I find indoors go straight outside again.
It is the other 5% I am worried about ! The first couple of times I saw the spider I THOUGHT I could see a red mark (either upper or lower side). Once it was in the container I couldn't see it. Lulled into sense of security by everyone (including close friends) telling me it was probably the false black widow I have happily released it. Now I wonder if there is anyway I could have been mistaken and released a potential disaster! If it is happily the false black widow am I right in thinking they can give a nasty bite anyway?
Im having another look at the photos and will get back to the site. Thank you everyone for your time. Steph
Hi again, well, after releasing the spider, I kept having memory flashes (I do tend to work in pictures) of the view I got of the spider when I thought I saw two red markings. (Im putting the fact that they looked like two triangles to memory/mind tricks). At the time I was trying to get a good look at it so I could try and identify it, so it is not as if it was a fleeting glimpse.
However on the photos I cannot make any red markings out. I have had a look around in the old spot and there is no sign of the spider returning even though I did put the container near to the old place. I did very unceremoniously scoop the spider and web into the plastic container with a toothbrush while wearing gloves so no spider with any sense WOULD rebuild a web there.
So I have spent the last few evenings going out with my torch and seeing if I can spot a similar web to the above. (There are 6 other types of spider out there that I can think of without trying, I dont know the names, just what they look like.) This evening I found the web, although the spider inhabiting it looks larger, although the spider in the plastic container was tucked in. It is a very fine untidy web and the spider seems to live in between the cactus arms. the main web spans about 3" in a triangular shape, almost taking a shallow cone shape.
I ended up videoing it. I had taken a couple of photos and then a flower dropped off of another plant and made me jump (lol - not THAT funny) and the spider shot back into the cactus (a large spidery cactus with lots of cranies and insects) and made me leap again ! Videoing it seemed a far safer slower approach. . . . . just in case. I dont think I can see any red marks on this one, but it is jet black with a very shiny round rear body, and doesn't look like the sort of spider you would want to mess with!
I probably wouldn't, but I have my granddaughter, young nephew and neice who come over often, and usually a tribe of other small friends at different times, so I don't really want to take any risks.
Any advice? ooook if they had a "worried" smiley I would use it.