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Apr 3, 2013 1:54 PM

Spider identification

Any help in identifying this species, found in the New Forest this week, would be much appreciated.

The Beech nut gives an idea of size.

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    Apr 3, 2013 9:43 PM (in response to TRW)
    Re: Spider identification

    Interim answer/suggestion from a non-spider chap: Steatoda grossa.

    But you'll see there are other species of Steatoda found in Britain, and other related genera in the Theridiidae -

    http://wiki.britishspiders.org.uk/index.php5?title=The_Checklist_of_British_Spiders

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    Apr 3, 2013 11:34 PM (in response to TRW)
    Re: Spider identification

    I think this is a Meta species, Meta menardi being the more common species. You haven't given any indication of habitat. M. menardi likes dark places, and is a big spider when adult.

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      Apr 4, 2013 1:14 PM (in response to TRW)
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      That's interesting. It's an adult female and her epigyne (which in her case is the dark bar towards the top of the abdomen underside) doesn't look quite right for M. menardi but looks a reasonable match for M. bourneti. This species has been found previously in the base of trees in the New Forest. See -

      http://srs.britishspiders.org.uk/portal.php/p/Summary/s/Meta+bourneti

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      Apr 4, 2013 1:18 PM (in response to TRW)
      Re: Spider identification

      Hello,

      I think that the large spines on its legs rule out Steatoda species. This must be a Meta species, but I wouldn't know which. Both Meta menardi and M. bourneti live in total darkness and are difficult to separate. M. menardi seems to be the common species, but it usually has very clearly marked red rings on legs. Let's see what the experts have to say about this.

      Yours,

      Florin

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          Apr 5, 2013 8:56 AM (in response to TRW)
          Re: Spider identification

          If Hampshire has a spider recorder it might be worth showing him/her the photos, especially the one showing the underside. They probably wouldn't feel happy confirming it as bourneti without examining it under the microscope, but you never know, and even if they don't it may still be of interest.

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              Apr 5, 2013 10:15 AM (in response to TRW)
              Re: Spider identification

              I've just looked for a Hampshire spider recorder but I can't find one (the Suffolk recorders are listed on the Internet I think, but not Hampshire). You could try contacting the British Arachnological Society. Their contacts page is http://wiki.britishspiders.org.uk/index.php?title=Contacts and maybe the one you need is the one for Spider Recording scheme. I can't guarantee he'll be interested, though I thought it was a nice find.

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