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I found some decent fossils on Eathie Beach Cromarty Scotland. The first i know is an ammonite the second is some type of fish but i cant tell which one can anyone help me?
Hi thanks i believe the reptilian like skull is actually a type of lobe finned fish but there are quite a few to be found up here in scotland i find characteristics that resemble the famous geologist in the 1800's Hughe Miller's illustrations of an Asterolepis in the teeth formations two rows of teeth fine closely spaced teeth on the outside and larger wider spaced in the inside however the skull profile doesnt match.
This beach is rather unique in that you can find both marine and fresh water species. During the Devonian period the area formed part of a very large basin that created a fresh water sea called Lake Orcadia then turned into a shallow sea in the Jurassic.
It was on this stretch when the tide was out
Yes, the ammonite is Kimmeridgian - those shales are the source rock for many of the offshore oil fields.
You may be interested in this link to the type locality in Dorset: https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~imw/kimfoss.htm
The loose boulders could well have come from the nearby Middle Devonian bedrock - the whole area has a blanket of superficial glacial deposits.
The NHM officer who directs such enquiries to the right curator has acknowledged my request and is "on the case"...
A good find indeed and nice to see the bone exposed plus some nice teeth. Not sure what the piece of bone with what look like broken off teeth and sockets is.
A few of us were discussing Eathie at the Friends of Hugh Miller events in Edinburgh at the weekend, in that nodules from Eathie can be confusing in that you can find loose limestone nodules on the beach of both Devonian and Jurassic age. These nodules have weathered out of their respective matrices and end up in the rocky shingle on the beach together. The Jurassic nodules are often broken with pieces of ammonite and the Devonian nodules with bits of fish.
What is also interesting is that NHM holds a pterosaur bone from Eathie found in 1850 (at which time Hugh Miller was still alive), see link below. It is in shale next to an ammonite!
Looking forward to the expert opinion!
Dear Steve84,
Yes, a fantastic find!
From the photos, the specimen seems to be a Devonian fish. Dr. Zerina Johanson, who specialises in early vertebrate evolution, is not certain but she thinks that the "relatively large symphyseal tooth looks a bit a rhizodont" with our specialist Dr. Charlie Underwood agreeing: "the robust skull and large fang would suggest some sort of Devonian sarcopterygian fish"
The specimen is of potential scientific importance. It would be possible due to the 3D nature of the fossil to make a detailed CT scan of the original bone structure - a glimpse at the structure of these rare fossil fish.The museum would be interested in acquiring your specimen if you are interested.
Thanks,
Ben
Hey Ben sorry for the delay, thank you for that explanation yes its an odd find indeed and iv had a few experts scratching their heads over this one. The intriguing aspect is its not easily identifiable with any particular common species found in the area nor was it found within the known fish beds of the location but on the western stretch of beach more commonly linked with the Jurrasic shales and not sandstone like my specimen. Thank you for the offer of a CT scan however since my original post my specimen has been on temp loan display in Inverness Museum who have contacted the Scottish National Museum who have made the same request and i have agreed. However i will share the findings on the thread once i hear more.
Many thanks
Steve