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Mar 19, 2016 6:47 PM

Could someone help ID this tree please?

I have this tree and need to know it's name please. The people moving in here want to cut it down and I think I'd like it moved instead. What are peoples views on this? Any advice would be superb, thanks

 

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Sorry the images are sideways, I couldn't rotate them.

 

Thanks in advance!

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    Mar 19, 2016 9:22 PM (in response to DaiWalker)
    Re: Could someone help ID this tree please?

    Hi Dai,

     

    Welcome to NaturePlus.

     

    Going just on leaves, it is not easy.

    I think it is a cedar, perhaps Deodar cedar (Cedrus deodara).

    I have considered Larix, Pseudolarix, Cathaya, Keteleeria, Pinus monophylla, Sciadopitys...

     

    However, I am open to alternative suggestions, should anybody be willing to venture an opinion...

     

    Unless you can take a big rootball with it, I feel moving it would be unsuccessful.

    By big, I mean a cubic metre or so - need a truck, and preferably a specialist tree-moving grab (like this or this).

     

    Mike

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      Mar 20, 2016 4:20 PM (in response to MikeHardman)
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      Hi Mike,

       

      I can see why you're saying Deodar, though my initial thought was a Pine of some sort. You have also mentioned some very unusual conifers, Cathaya and Keteleeria I had to look up - not come across those before!

       

      If the picture is recent, and in the UK, that rules out Larix and Pseudolarix at least.

       

      The tree has such a neat, dense habit it makes me think that it's a cultivar rather than a species? As such I'd be more inclined to think it's a Pine as I think the shape might be a better fit for such. However, I can't come up with a sensible suggestion at the moment.

       

      I certainly agree that to move it you would need a large rootball, which would be difficult to acheive without professional (costly) help.

       

      Dai - are you able to provide dimensions for the tree and a good close up of the needles?

       

      Regards Lucy

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        Mar 20, 2016 9:43 PM (in response to lucy)
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        Thanks for your thoughts, Lucy.

        Pine: well, there are not many 1-needle Pinus species... However, I suppose there might be 1-needle cultivars of n-needle pines species (by loose analogy with the single-leaved cultivar 'Hessei' of the common Fraxinus excelsior).

         

        Dai,

        Do you have any idea what the cones/fruit are like?

        If it has produced some, there might be remnants in the litter/grass? below the tree. If it is a cedar, the cones break up on the tree and leave just scales like this on the ground.

        (If you have never seen the cones/fruit, it could be that the regular pruning has been removing them or the flowers. Absence could also be due to the tree still being immature, or a sterile cultivar.)

         

        Mike

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    Mar 20, 2016 10:39 PM (in response to DaiWalker)
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    Hi,

    I must admit my first thought was that it was most likely to be a cultivar of Pseudolarix - but I admit I'm far from certain and a cone would be a great help!

    Best wishes

    Fred

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    • Mike, I realise I'm way off the mark saying pine as it has single needles. I'll use the excuse that the image is not very sharp on my device (tablet), and perhaps I was also being hopeful that I could see needles in pairs or groups.

       

      Here's hoping we get more to go on, please Dai?

       

      Lucy

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      Mar 22, 2016 9:55 AM (in response to DaiWalker)
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      I'd just like to add that the tree looks lovely, why on earth would they want to cut it down!  It would be such a shame to cut down a tree that size.  Also I'm sure it's a fantastic habitat for invertebrates and birds, so at this time of year it wold actually be against the law for them to cut it down in the bird breeding season.  I certainly hope you can persuade them to keep it, especially as it's turning out to be a non run of the mill specimin.

      Amanda

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