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Nov 23, 2013 3:32 PM

Help I.D these spiders

Dear Nature Plus,                                              

I would be very grateful for some help with finding the sub order of two spiders.

 

The spiders were found in august in a lowland arable wheatfield in Essex.

This was near a hawthorn/blackthorn hedgerow and a wildflower buffer strip consisting of false oat, some meadow thistle, wild carrot, ribwort plantain, birds foot trefoil, smaller cats tail, scentless mayweed and yarrow.

 

I am currently trying to use 'The Country Life guide to spiders in britain and northern Ireland to identify these.

 

Thanks,

 

 

b1c1medium spider thin legs faint beige segment shading on legs again 2.jpg

6c2 spider  large.jpg

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    Nov 23, 2013 6:56 PM (in response to weber134)
    Re: Help I.D these spiders

    I don't know about the top picture - trying to learn more about these creatures myself. The lower one, going by the carapace marking, might be in the Lycosidae family - wolf spiders. It's hard to make out the eye arrangement amidst the reflection from the fluid but I'm trying to convince myself that it is like the typical lycosidae arangement shown in your book, so I'd want to take a closer look there.

    Chris

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      Nov 24, 2013 11:12 AM (in response to ChrisE)
      Re: Help I.D these spiders

      Hi Chris,

       

      Thanks for helping! I will try and get a more detailed book on wolfspiders.

       

      We also found a different spider nearby and I can't work out the order.

       

       

      medium spider 1 of 3 of them black body yellow legs.jpg

      medium spider 3 of 3 of them black body yellow legs.jpg

       

       

      Thanks,

       

      Melissa

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        Nov 24, 2013 4:41 PM (in response to Melissarose)
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        I think this latest one is Pachygnatha degeeri. But I think you're catching them in pitfall traps and they've been in the traps for a few days. So, they've deteriorated which makes identifying them more difficult.

         

        The wolf spider may be a young Pardosa such as P. monticola but that's just a guess. There aren't many juveniles that you can identify to species with certainty.

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