I've just found a spider struggling to climb up my bathroom wall that has a fairly interesting pattern on it's back. Could someone identify it for me out of interest?
Re your first spider - I can't tell from the picture whether it's adult or not (I would need to see a close up picture of the underside), but it's not a big spider.
The latest one is an Amaurobius species, probably similis, They're considerably bigger than Zygiella. ID pointers in this case include -
different pattern on the abdomen and cephalothorax (the rear and front parts of the body)
shape of the cephalothorax
Hope that helps