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Aug 1, 2014 7:00 PM

Can you identify this tree?



I wonder if anyone can help identify a tree in my Surrey garden please?


  • It's a deciduous tree about 5 metres high
  • In the spring it has white flowers
  • Right now it's covered in small green berries which will ripen to a nice shade of red in a couple of months
  • The leaves come off the branches in small clumps rather than individually


Sorry if this isn't much information to go on! Let me know if there's any more detail I can provide.


Thanks in advance,



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    Aug 1, 2014 9:54 PM (in response to pauldwilson)
    Re: Can you identify this tree?



    The fruit are wrong for Amelanchier, so I think it is a cherry or an apple (crab apple or similar species).


    If it is a cherry, it is not of the wild sort (Prunus avium) - the leaves and bark are wrong.

    I'm not sure what species/cultivar it is.

    I would also be happier in that ID if I could see some petiolar glands. Those are tiny lumps, two per leaf, on the leaf stalk (petiole). Here's an example where they are fairly obvious -

    In many cases, however, they are very obscure.

    They are characteristic of Prunus leaves (cherries, plums, gages).

    Having the leaves somewhat in tufts would be right for some cherries.


    Because I can't see any petiolar glands, because of the pattern of the veins and marginal toothing of the leaves, and the nature of the bark, I lean towards apple. There are lots of crab apples or similar-looking species, differing in size of tree, size and colour of fruit, and other things. It would be difficult to ID the species/cultivar.


    The key thing to do is cut open a fruit: if it has one kernel, it is a cherry; if it has multiple pips it is a crab apple. Please let us know!


    Whichever it is, the fruit is probably edible (test that only at your own risk). I say that because it appears the tree was grafted (at the top of the stright trunk), and that's most likely to be done on a domestic fruit tree.



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