Im hoping I can get some info on a few items found on the yorkshire coastline a few weeks ago . The first of which I have attached pictures of to this message .
The others I shall send each on a seperate messages . Thanks for your help it is really appreciated
once again perhaps my photography is not up to scratch . Please give more info as to your reasoning .
this has all the traits of being an egg and shows obvious signs of being attacked . I understand how rare these are and so its often easy to doubt but after waiting a day I must admit I was expecting a bit more . Please feel free to ask any associated questions which may allow me to change your opinion .
Thanks your opinion is valued
The photos are clear enough, but it's one of them rocks where it is hard to identify. I am 110% sure it is not an egg, but the thing inside is strange, but it doesn't really have the features of a fossil. When a rock is in the sea, the rough waves and the other rocks collides it with gradually break the rocks, which I think is what has happened with yours. It hasn't been attacked. To see any fossil with a predetation mark is extremely rare, unless it is an ammonite or something like that, which yours is not. Eggs are non-existent on the Yorkshire Coast. It is also the wrong shape and it doesn't have any simular it's of being an egg. If anything, the thing inside will be a bone, but I am 99.999999999% sure it is just an eroded rock. When looking for a fossil, you need to know exactly where to look. If you just paddle in the sea, you won't find anything, but if you look in all of the pebbles, you find loads. Also, the Yorkshire Coast has gemstones like jasper. You can find them by simply looking in the pebbles. Most fossils are found in the cliffs and the clay, but the cliffs are obviously dangerous because of falling rocks, and the clay can be sticky, but as far as I am aware there is not clay on the Yorkshire Coast.
Your rock is the same kind of rock as the rocks that commonly contain ammonites. It is too thin to contain an ammonite, but if you go again look for them rocks and you have a good chance of finding one in them. I can't really explain why yours is not a fossil, but it is Surtainly from erosion. Erosion is very good for finding fossils. If you look at a rock one day, it probably won't have any fossils, but if you go back a year later, after several storms, it is likely it could have a fossil inside. Where I live, I find carboniferous fossil wood. It is quite amazing because it is semi-sandstone where I find them, so it can quickly erode. It has happened before where I have checked a spot and I have found nothing, and if I go a day later when it has been raining over night, that spot may be full of fossils.
The fossils in most of the Yorkshire Coast are jurassic, but there is some cretacious fossils in some places. Your rock looks like it is jurassic, which is why them rocks commonly contain ammonites. Ammonites lived in the cretacious, but they were more common in the jurassic period.
Sometimes, rocks have a crack going through them which contains a fossil. It is always good to take a hammer because even the least obvious rocks contain rare fossils, like fish fossils. Ichthyosaur fossils are sometimes found along the Yorkshire Coast, but it takes a lot of time to find them. The most common fossils off them are their vertebrae (spine bones.). If you go back to the Yorkshire Coast, you may find one, but they are quite rare.
Basically, you rock is suratinly just where it has been eroded.
Sorry mate perhaps I should have stated that it didnt look like this until after I removed the matrix and the supposed damage was not evident prior to that point . This must surely rule out any water caused erosion as it was beneath the matrix . On the front end are two indentations which correspond with it having been grabbed by something to move it and there are a couple of footprint like marks . As im sure your aware eggs of that age were probably much softer than modern day according to research . I intend to polish it properly but the few places I have done whilst working on it became almost iridescent green and this allows one to look deeper into it at which point cracks and speckles come forth into view . Most definitely jurrasic which in itself is strange because this era lends itself to whitby and above and these were all from much further down the coast . Thanks again for taking time to explsin your conclusions I appreciate youve done your homework but ive been researching the possibilities now for a couple of months and as such hope to have ruled out much contention . Please continue to respond . Thanks
If you moved that rock and you did not find it like that, it is definietly just a rock.rocks with a simular shape to something else can often be mistaken as a fossil when they are just a rock.
It was on the beach and was the same except for had a layer of matrix covering so that the damage was not there until worked on . Do you know the tell tale signs of a rock being an egg ? If so please relate them as I have on good authority what they are and they all correspond . This will then convince me otherwise as I shall know you have more knowledge than myself . Sorry if that sounds pretentious but im sure of what I have still at this point and until told otherwise by someone who can put me in my place im gonna find it hard to believe . Also I'm going to post the rest of the items shortly which are from the same visit so please be sure to give me your opinions . Cheers mate I didnt envisage this being like a game of chess but its most enjoyable
Real eggs are much more shaped like a chickens egg. Yours is too flat to be an egg. Also, it is impossible to find fossil eggs in whitby because it was underwater in the jurassic period, and icthyosaurs and other marine reptiles gave birth to live young.
I'll try to identify your other fossils.
Mate you just crashed n burned . Dinosaur eggs are identifiable by being much flatter and more elongated . Commonly with speckles regularly having defects such as lumps and markings making them far less uniform . In some cases they may have the appearance of a kind of layered effect . They typical hens egg design came to fruition much later . Kinda relieved you had me going for a bit . Cheers tho I think thats put that one to bed 4 now
Hopefully tabfish will give his opinion. It is not an egg. It is a rock that commonly contains fossils.
Dinosaur eggs are much more rounded- not elongated. Only oviraptor eggs are elongated and oviraptor didn't live in England, and you can't find eggs in Yorkshire; there was no animals to produce the eggs.
This is a nodule. NOT an egg. Remember, these came from a marine environment and eggs in would be incredibly rare. What you have looks like the commonly found nodule - these can contain fossils if you split them. What you are calling the "shell" is the more pyritic skin to the nodule.
If you still think this is an egg, take it to Byron in Whitby to handle it in person.
your title suggests you know what you are talking about . Firstly thanks for your input and I can appreciate what your saying but within a few yds of it I found two mammoth teeth I think and definately a petrified ear of a mammal . Not fossilised petrified . Surely these items suggest the item came out of the permafrost and as such must have been displaced from elswhere . When it walks like a duck looks like a duck and quacks..... usually a duck . I understand peoples reservations . Its crazy what I found in an hour and a half that day but I think if u look into the jurassic record is generally whitby and north until much further south and inbetween is cretaceous . So these items or at least some of them have no right to be there . Yet where I found them there are two periods of fossil record both in the same area as a result of glaciers and that is that . Ill peg a picture of the ear upon request. Thanks buddy good advice
I agree with taking some of your fossils to Byron. If you go to my post: how big was this megalodon, you will see a megalodon tooth which I bought from him. He also has a youtube video of him finding an ammonite. He is really knolagable about fossils; one of the best paleontologists in Britain, in my opinion.
I just noticed, you put not a fossilised ear bone but a petrefied ear bone. As far as I am aware they mean the same thing. What it will be is a semi fossil. All ice age remains are semi fossils, appart from the carcasses. Semi fossils are not fully fossilised, but the minerals are starting to sink into it.
I hope this was helpful.
You have found a pyritic nodule from bed 33 of the cannonball doggers from the Whitby area.
It is from the Lower Jurassic and is more commonly known as a Cannonball.
Occasionally you will find the pyrite covered limestone nodule (they com in different shapes) has been formed around a fossil, usually an ammonite called Eleganticeras elegantulum although I have found coprolites, bone and on one occasion a shark spine.
If you split and find an ammonite you can polish the nodule and it will have a golden shine to it.
When this is done professionally they turn into a beautiful object that is very valuable.
Sometimes when you find them the pyrite crust is rotten an can be removed with ease but when polished it will be grey to black in colour.
Sorry for the delay been having difficulties with the website it wouldn't let me reply .
Anyway thanks for your clincher mate it settled our debate and a lesson has been learned by myself . Shut up and listen ! Thankfully I'm a quick learner . Respect to Dan who seems to have nailed it kinda and who I adamantly disagreed with .
I have more to post yet so please stop me earlier next time ! Lol .
Needed to post that b4 bed .
I shall deal with the others tomorrow .
Thanks mate got mixed emotions but at least I know now .