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Aug 29, 2013 11:56 AM

Nymphalidae to ID

This one is not a good photo, I found this specie only on the ground.

 

12.08.2013 - North Italy - 650 mls

 

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Thanks for the help,

Marcello

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      Aug 29, 2013 10:48 PM (in response to Marcello Consolo)
      Re: Nymphalidae to ID

      Marcello,

       

      Yes - Hipparchia fagi is a possibility.

      But I suspect lepiforum is right - the dark line in the middle of the hindwing where the white and brown-grey areas meet is not quite straight enough for H. fagi.

      http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Hipparchia_Fagi ('Diagnosis'  section)

       

      I think H. alcyone is also wrong because of the shape of that line.

      http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Hipparchia_Alcyone

       

      Ditto H. semele

      - http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Hipparchia_Semele

       

      From my list of candidates, that leaves just H. genava

      - http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Hipparchia_Genava

      But note that variability means that it may be necessary to look at genitals to separate H. genava from H. alcyone, as advised here - http://www.eurobutterflies.com/species_pages/genava.htm

       

      Alan - what do you think?

       

      Mike

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          Sep 2, 2013 6:44 AM (in response to Marcello Consolo)
          Re: Nymphalidae to ID

          Marcello,

           

          Thanks for the further research. Fauna Europaea and lepiforum do vary in their taxonomy sometimes. I don't know which version is current (and opinion may change in future!)

           

          Mike

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              Sep 2, 2013 9:56 AM (in response to Marcello Consolo)
              Re: Nymphalidae to ID

              Marcello,

               

              Thanks for posting that here for convenience.

               

              If you like, you could call your specimen Hipparchia hermione genava (Frühstorfer 1908)

              (you can omit the '(Hipparchia)' part because that is just the subgenus)

               

              Mike

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