Dear All , i found this Egg , no one know what it is , can anyone let me know what there opinion is ?
these are the details of this Egg
Detail information about the EGG .
- Found Location : dead sea - Jordan , 400 Meters bellow sea level .
- Sand Type in Location : salty Sand from dead sea Area .
- Diameter Egg : 12 CM
- Smell Egg : when opened , the hair smells like goat hair .
- surfaceEgg : very smooth
- weight Egg : very light , in grams 200 - 300 grams almost
- weight on water : can float on water .
- subjected to water : it became smelly because of the hair layer .
- when dried from water : its smell was acceptable .
- strength of shell : can stand a drop from a height of 10 meters and not effected
- X-ray scan : two different locations done to it ( see images)
- MRI : the MRI system didn't accept the object to be scanned .
- Hair layer after open : the hair layer are small hair ( 2 cm ) length and smell like - goat hair .
kindly let me know what you think of these photos , i can send you outer shell samples , and send you hair samples too .
Photos with dimensions attached in this email :
1: egg photo dimensions
2.egg photo with small whole , with dimensions
4. egg whole focus , we did this whole to see whats the outer layer
6. Egg small hair located exactly after we did a small whole in the egg ( 2cm) each hair sample
9, Egg x-ray angle two .
Sorry there is an error in the dimensions of the hair layer that surounds the outer layer of the Egg , the hair dimenssion is 2 MM ( as showen in image Number 6 ) in the photos . ( and it smells like goat hair !!
There is a strang conflict in how the egg can be light and can float on water , yet at the same time can be hard , and not get effected by dropping it from a 10 meter hieght and not break at all !!
Not a dinosaur egg, I'm afraid. In fact, I don't think this is an egg at all. Does any animal lay eggs made of hair? I don't think so. This may be man-made. Check if the locals play a ball game with balls made of goat's hair. If this is natural, I guess it is possible for hair to fall in a stream and get trapped in some places resulting in balls. Check this page to see what happens with American Larch needles in water: Larch Ball.
Florin , look carefully to the x-ray in the photos , there are detailed
Uniform layers inside the sphere , and there looks like an amrio inside of it , and the hair is only 1 cm thick , after that there are different layers that show in the x-ray .
And the hair layer that on the outer surface when the external shell was open , it is all uniform dimensions of 2 mm size of hair that is woven around the egg , image you sent me does not look close at all Witt the perfection of the shape of the sphere ball we have ( it has a perfectly designed shape ) .
I would ask you to look more closely to the images I sent you , and analyze them , I feel you didn't thoroughly check all the photos I sent you .
Even the physics of this object is strange , it does not break or bend under any pressure that is done to it , it is light enough to float , I think even NASA can't create such a material like this .
I got more I analytical answers from my local Jordanian animal experts , I was expecting alot from you as an international Musium , you were highly recommended by people from different regions .
Kindly look at the photo details and information I sent you , and give me a second opinion about this object .
Thank you for your support and looking forward to your answer .
Well hair balls, also known as trichobezoars, might be in the right ballpark.
- "..."hair ball" that was found in a cow's stomach at the time of it being butchered."
photo and further description here
- and this, which includes mention of goats, and another photo
Neither of those describe the internal structure, unfortunately.
Another keyword to search for is 'rumenolith'.
I think you nailed it: it must be a trichobezoar. Poor me, I started to look for images of dino eggs, especially of Caprasaurus! :-)
Note : when I mentioned goat with the hair layers in the second layers of this spherical egg , I was referring to the closest type of smell that resembles it , this layer of hair is 2 mm in dimension , I mean all the hair items that fall from that layer are 2 mm dimension , it is clear that the way this hair is places inside the first inner layer of the egg is neither done by humans or even a factory with the accuracy and detail of how it is places , i would strongly say it is a biologically created object , check when types of animals that could produce such an egg with the size and material and weight and smell that is similar to this egg .
Thanks again .
I think we can exclude the hair clot that animals produce in there stomachs , because an animal doctor confirmed that this object resembles it, but the type and length of hair and the perfect size and shape and texture shows it does not fall under this category at all . And specially after he saw the x-ray that shows the different layers and the core layer that shows like there is an amrio inside the egg shape . There is a clear design layer structure inside the egg with different layers and a core , I am sure the x-ray of those hair clots do not look like this at all .
Florin , lets keep our options open to what this can be , I think you are getting closer with it when you mentioned : (I started to look for images of dino eggs, especially of Caprasaurus! ) , its a hairy animal , for argument sack , can you follow up this lead and let me know where it take you . The option of doing DNA test is possible too .
Are you an official certified specialist in this domain ? Or are you volunteer that is sharing your personal point of view to this matter ? Or do you have a team if experts you consult with before you decide to say what this object is ? ! So I can know how credible is the information you are sharing with me on this object I have , and how serious I should be taking it .
If you are not an official expert in this domain , kindly forward me to someone that is , or tell me how to let a specialist to give me his or expert opinion on my object , like I said before , I can do any kind of tests if needed for it here in jordan or in London and pay for it too , to get a scientific conclusion and not wild guesses about my object ,so I can know what I have with me , and what to do with it .
By the way ,when I got this object from the guys that found it , they were playing with it as a ball as you mentioned in your first observation , I was the one to take it from them , and x-ray it , and look at it as an serious object , and handle it with care until I know what it is .
Looking forward to your feed back .
Dear Mr Abdallat,
I'm not a palaeontologist, but I have asked a Museum expert to examine the evidence you provided. Here is his answer:
In answer to this enquiry:
There is nothing fossiliferous about this specimen. There are no structures or features which resemble a dinosaur egg either. It appears to be a biologically created layered aggregation. It further seems quite reasonable from the evidence provided that this is a rumenolith composed of ground vegetable matter and hair stuck together by the precipitation of a low density mineral like calcium phosphate in the gut of an animal like a goat, sheep or cow. This would certainly account for the appearance, the layered structure, the smell, the durability (e.g. resistance to impacts) and low density (floating in water). Like many layered aggregations there is a sphere in the centre but this is simply the innermost layer. It is circular only because it happens to be the layer in the middle and therefore only envelopes itself. There is no evidence or reason to suggest anything else e.g. no defining structures or morphological characters.
As such I can only agree with what was already said by “Mike”. I am sorry if you do not agree with this answer but I feel that this is a perfectly reasonable identification on the evidence provided.
Dr Timothy A. M. Ewin
Curator of Invertebrate Palaeontology
Department of Earth Sciences
The Natural History Museum London
Cromwell Road, South Kensington, London, SW7 5BD, UK
I hope this helps.
Florin Feneru (Mr)
Identification and Advisory Officer
Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity
The Natural History Museum
Cromwell Road, London
SW7 5BD, U.K.
+44 (0)20 7942 5045
I would like to thank you again for the feed back , I do respect your scientific explanation , yet what is said is not conclusive , I will do a Deeper section in the sphere , and show you more details what is inside , so we can put an end to the assumptions that we are discussing . I believe the x- ray talks more than what is being suggested .
I will post the photos of the results of my section in the sphere .
Tariq abdallat .
I think i deserve the ( I Told you so ) statment , yes it is a hair clot , my second question is , what animal does create such a hair clot ( 11 CM diameter ) ? there is an updated photo No # ( 007) , check it out if that can help to explain more about what it is .
my other question would be , how old could this clot be ?!
I don't seem to be able to see the x-rays. Here is a photo of some pig hair balls, that is hair balls from pigs stomach, I think you will agree there are no features on the photographs which distinguish these from your hair ball .
These are called Rumenoliths by veternary practitioners and are known to occur in many ruminants
Thank you all for your contributions to solving this mystery! I learn something every day. "Naturalists are students all their lives".