Can you tell me what tree this is?
I would guess it has been planted within the last 20 years as part of the Great North Wood in Co Durham. Originally I thought that it was a field maple but it does not have grey buds and its buds (3-4mm) are slightly larger than those of a mature field maple tree in the local area. I have more photos but was unable to attach more than 2, if required I can open up a further document.
According to my sources, Acer campestre buds are brown, perhaps with a grey tip. So your comments on grey buds confuses me somewhat. What source gives you grey buds for this species?
The shoot (good photo, BTW) looks like good A. campestre to me.
Are you sure the other tree is Acer campestre?
Looking at the leaves and samaras on the ground, under the respective trees, are they disctinct or do they all fall within the same range of shapes and sizes?
I'm having difficulty locating a Great North Wood in County Durham.
You don't mean 'Great High Wood', do you?
That's next to Durham Botanic Garden, where you might ask.
- comparitive photos of leaves, buds/shoots, and samaras of maples
- photo showing grey tips to buds
Thank you very much for your reply.
The reference that I used for Acer campestre having grey buds was The Collins Tree Guide – Johnson and Moor, which states A campestre ‘shoots thin pale brown with small grey hairy buds’. Though I agree your attachment photos give a different visual description.
The mature A campestre I compared with was from the Arboretum at Houghall College, Durham which has a wonderful collection of various specimens. The buds on this mature tree were distinctively grey and slightly smaller than my local ones.
When the snow clears I am going to have to get on my hand and knees to find some leaves, though it looks likes it going to be a field maple.
I should have said the trees were planted in Stanley as part of the The Great North Forrest and not wood.
ps I dont know why some of my typing has been white highlighted.
In that case, the Collins Tree Guide seems at odds with many other descriptions, eg.:
- Collins' 'A field Guide to the Trees of Britain and Northern Europe', by Alan Mitchell (sadly departed), 1974 ('Bud red-brown with with grey, pubescent tip; 3mm')
- 'The Blandford Guide to Trees of the British Countryside' , by Fairhurst & Soothill, 1981 ('Buds 5mm long, brown, narrowly ovate and ciliate')
Great North Forest - ah - that makes sense.
I suggest you run your quesiton by The Woodland Trust, using firstname.lastname@example.org to get to their 'Our woods & their management' section. They may have a planting plan for the wood.
There are related plants, eg. cultivars of A. campestre, other species such as A. monspessulanum (though not sure about the corky bark), and hybrids - which I would not rule out at this stage.
If, in due course, you get some insight from the fallen leaves/samaras, please post here to let us know.
- A WALK IN THE WOODS, No.2 'The Great North Forest' -
- another discussion on a possible field maple - http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=52047