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Sep 26, 2011 5:24 PM

ID This: What's this  spider?

Found this rather ghastly spider on my house. What the duece is it?


Did a bit of research... couldnt work it out. Perhaps money spider?

 

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    Sep 26, 2011 8:33 PM (in response to HelloSteve)
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    Hello there

    Following my recent hands on coaching session from the Bumble Bee who knows, I'll go for a mature male or immature female Steatoda noblis (noting the reddish legs and the curved cream band on the abdomen). One of our facinating False Widows on it's gradual march North.

    Lewis

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    Sep 27, 2011 2:37 PM (in response to HelloSteve)
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    I have not seen either in the flesh so to speak, but Roberts, Spiders of GB and I. Vol 3 Plate107 (female I know) would suggest S. grossa.  Any more photos?  S. nobilis appears more marked on the abdomen than in your photo.  Regards Tony
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      Sep 27, 2011 3:13 PM (in response to pholcus)
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      Hi Pholcus.

      I have been caught out between S. grossa and S. noblis so many times that I always tend to go with Bombus lucorums opinion. Also the males tend to be less strongly marked than the females.

      Lewis

       

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        Sep 27, 2011 3:29 PM (in response to Lewis)
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        Hi Lewis,

         

        You can see the markings more clearly in this photo,  I agree.  Where in the country was it seen?  Not sure it's reache up into the Birmingham area, whre I live.  Kind regards  Tony

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          Sep 27, 2011 4:22 PM (in response to pholcus)
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          Thanks for blowing the image up a bit pholcus - from this and location I would now err on the side of grossa. Flash photography often makes the legs look a more vibrant orange/red than they are in life. Size would help too; male nobils usually significantly larger than grossa (depends on how well they have fed of course). Only sure way to do the males is to look at the palps under a microscope - similar in both, but usually clear enough. nobilis could turn up almost anywhere these days as it is well enough established in southern counties and a few more northern localities.

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