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Feb 13, 2016 10:26 PM

Sheppey fish

Found a lovely fish nodule this morning that is going to need a lot of preparation but at first sight it appear that the nodule contains most if not all of the fish. Some lovely scale definition and shape to the backbone. If anyone would like to hazard a guess at the species please feel free!

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    Feb 15, 2016 9:37 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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    One for an NMH fish expert - I'll ask Fiona

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    Feb 16, 2016 2:37 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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    Hi Gremlin,

     

    Thank you for posting your exciting find. I will forward your link to a specialist, however, they may need to see the specimen in 3D. Bye for now,

    Best wishes

    FIona

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    Feb 18, 2016 11:27 AM (in response to Gremlin)
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    Lovely specimens Gremlin! Thank you for posting them.I will forward to the research specialist.

     

    Best wishes

    Fiona

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        Jun 6, 2018 12:04 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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        Hi Gremlin,

         

        Fiona has been away for much of the past year.

         

        You are welcome to bring some of your specimens in to the museum. We are open Monday thru Friday and the first Saturday of every month.

         

        Can you please tell me how many specimens are in these four photos? I will then send photos down to the curators and get back to you with an identification.

         

        Thanks,

        Ben

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            Nov 23, 2017 12:05 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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            Sorry for taking so long. Thanks for new photos. Hopefully, I can get an answer relatively soon.

             

            Ben

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                Nov 23, 2017 5:45 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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                Hi Gremlin,

                 

                You will need to bring them to the Angela Marmont Centre at the Natural History Museum. Our times are 10:00 to 12:00 and 14:00 to 16:00, Monday to Friday.

                 

                Thanks,

                Ben

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                    Nov 27, 2017 6:00 AM (in response to Gremlin)
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                    Hi Gary,

                     

                    Sorry. Yes, Saturday should be fine. The Angela Marmont Centre is open the first Saturday of every month.

                     

                    Thanks,

                    Ben

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                        Nov 29, 2017 10:14 AM (in response to Gremlin)
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                        Hi Gary,

                         

                        Best to show up from 10:00 to 12:00 or 2:00 to 4:00 to make sure someone is here to let you in.

                         

                        Looking forward to seeing the fossils.

                         

                        Thanks,

                        Ben

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                            Dec 3, 2017 8:16 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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                            Thanks, Gremlin.

                             

                            I will keep you posted.

                             

                            It might take some time so please be patient. We will get back to you as soon possible.

                             

                            Regards,

                            Ben

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                                Dec 17, 2017 7:11 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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                                Hello Gremlin,

                                 

                                Our specialists have been told about the specimens. It might take some time as they are involved in other projects. So if you can be patient, that would be great.

                                 

                                Thanks again for bringing in your find.

                                 

                                Ben

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        Jun 6, 2018 12:06 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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        Hi Gary,


        Thank you for bringing in your specimens to the museum for identification.


        Unfortunately, most of the fish are very hard to identify. It is possible but uncertain. Due to their mangled nature it would take a considerable amount of time for any curator. The curator can say with certainty that the two with visible teeth  are scombrid - the Mackerel and Tuna family.  Most likely Eocoelopoma colei Woodward 1901.  We have about 18 specimens in the collection all from Sheppey. 

         

        There is an NHM publication on Sheppey fish  that might be useful.


        CASIER, E.  1966.  Faune ichthyologique du London Clay. London:  British Museum  (Nat. Hist.). 496p. 82 figs, 68 pl.


        I hope this is helpful.

        Thanks,

        Ben

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            Jun 6, 2018 3:29 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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            Hi Gary,

             

            No, unfortunately the museum does not have a translation but it is strangely the only really detailed publication on the fish in Sheppey. There is also London Clay Fossils of Kent and Essex by David Rayner, Tony Mitchell, Martin Rayner and Fred Clouter (2009) which is also excellent but does not have as many described specimens.

             

            The photos and descriptions in Faune ichthyologique du London Clay should be really useful for more advanced identifications. I will check if there are any other publications that might be of help.

             

            Best

            Ben

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                Jun 7, 2018 11:42 PM (in response to Gremlin)
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                You are welcome. Yes. It sounds like a very good project and something that would be very useful.  If I hear of anyone I will tell you. Best of luck.

                 

                Ben

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