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Dec 5, 2017 1:08 PM

Bones id

I'm a garden designer and found these bones whilst digging a large hole for planting a tree in a garden in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire. They were in a layer of very compacted soil around 2ft deep. I'd be interested if anyone were able to have a go at identifying what they could be! The two larger pieces (vertebrae & straight piece) are very heavy and seem at least partially mineralised. The smaller piece with the joint at one end is much lighter so may not be related but was found in the same hole.

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    Dec 6, 2017 8:37 AM (in response to W. Brace)
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    Hi

    I agree they do look somewhat fossilised.  They may have come from the extensive superficial cover of glacial debris which blankets the underlying Chalk.  I expect a bone expert will respond with more info.

     

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    Dec 8, 2017 6:14 PM (in response to W. Brace)
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    I think you are correct and two of these bone pieces are fossilised; it is difficult to be certain from photos but the surface of the bones look typical. The third bone does look 'modern'; it is a proximal phalanx from a young even toed ungulate (deer, cattle, sheep etc.). There is a photo of the same view of a similar bone here:-

     

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/jrochester/23015013056/in/album-72157651496129381/

     

    Without knowing the length of the bone closer identification is not possible.

     

    Photo 2852 is the body of a vertebra, I think it is fossilised and it looks reptilian to me (I study modern bones not fossil).

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        Dec 8, 2017 8:59 PM (in response to W. Brace)
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        It is longer than it is broad and has a distinct waist.

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    Dec 9, 2017 9:30 AM (in response to W. Brace)
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    I'll ask for referral of the first two images to an internal NHM Cretaceous reptile specialist.

    The texture and colour are consistant with being from the Chalk.  If from the Chalk, then very unlikely to be a dinosaur (land reptiles) but a marine animal.

     

    What are dimensions of this one please?

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